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[recording starts]

Craig Charles: "As you must know by now, all this week Radiohead have been sharing some of their favourite music with us via the first ever 6Music Selector. Now, I am with guitarist Ed O’Brien, he’s in the studio with me now. You are the tallest man in rock n roll!

Ed: "Well, I remember about 5 years ago Q did one of those, you know, another poll of the tallest people and I think Fish is maybe – you remember Fish from Marillion?

Craig: "Fish from Marillion, yeah

Ed: "He’s...I think he’s taller than me, but only just.

Craig: "I’ve got an even more shocking thing to say. I met someone in a pub, in a place called Markyate in Hertfordshire with an 8 year old daughter called Kayleigh, named after the Fish song.

Ed: "Oh no! (laughs)

Craig: "It’s true. I said “Kayleigh - that reminds me of that Marillion Fish song” “Oh, I named her after that”

Ed: "Oh dear.

Craig: "I thought “Don’t shout it too loud, darling” So apart from him you’re the tallest you reckon?

Ed: "Yes yes, probably.

Craig: "Cause you have a different sort of perspective on the band, any of them slightly going bald – sort of losing a bit at the top – cause you must be looking down on their heads all the time!

Ed: "Oh...yeah... Well we’re all in our mid-thirties so it’s kind of like the prime age...so if anybody comes into rehearsal wearing a hat it’s kind of... you know...

Craig: "(laughs) Well listen, you know, I shouldn’t tell you this...I was in Oxford the other day, and there was this little magazine – I can’t remember the name of the magazine... You were voted Oxford’s most eligible bachelor.

Ed: "What, recently?

Craig: "Recently, yeah, in this magazine I was reading. I don’t know if it was an old one – I wasn’t in the dentist’s or anything or anything like that – it wasn’t the Lancet.

Ed: "Really?

Craig: "But you were voted one of Oxford’s most eligible bachelors!

Ed: "Really. Right, well I don’t live in Oxford anymore so... that’s probably why!

Craig: (laughs)"You’re a ManU supporter as well?

Ed: "Yeah yeah, totally.

Craig: "Grew up in Oxford?

Ed: "Grew – I’m a typical Man United supporter – aren’t I? I’m an Oxford Red! No, I went to University at Manchester. I went cause of the music because it was...

Craig: "Has it got a good music department?

Ed: "Well no, sorry, I went to...it was irrelevant...the university was kind of irrelevant. I went to Manchester cause of the music from the city, primarily because of the Smiths, and the Smiths, and the Smiths, and also obviously New Order and The Fall.

Craig: "That was just when it had just taken over from Liverpool as a music city of culture really.

Ed: "Yeah, totally. I went up in ’87 and within 3 weeks of being up there The Smiths split, but I kind of... I was into football in the ‘80s or whatever cause Oxford had quite a good run, but the Manor ground didn’t really...it wasn’t one of those one of those grounds that you were sort of... there was nothing religious about it, and I remember one of the mates I lived with in the house, he...the only reason he went to Manchester was cause of United and he said come along... he said... he used to go every other Saturday – Stretford End, and it was like 4.75 and you would get like the Football Express from Oxford Street to the Stretford end – to Old Trafford - and it was the first game I went to, it was in ’89, and it was against Chelsea and United lost and United were playing terribly then, it was a season that United won the FA cup...but I remember walking up the steps of the Stretford End and standing amongst 20,000 people and I’d never been to a football match like that in my life...and I was like...before a ball was even kicked I was, you know...I was converted.

Craig: "If I had taken you to the cup, we could have claimed you as our own!

Ed: "Well someone said that about City as well you know, and obviously Liverpool and City, vis-?-vis United...you know, hardcore United supporters are kind of like the anti-christs, aren’t they? But you know I can’t claim to be...to have such hatred for...

Craig: "What do you think about this marriage of music and football that’s taken place over the last... I think Oasis really kind of kicked it off in a way, didn’t they...sort of like, you know, footballers and music...it all became sort of married and mish-mashed and you had to have a team...and, I mean, Radiohead-ManU...all the rest of them?

Ed: "Well, Phil’s a big...they're not really big football supporters...Coz in the past year has become a Boro' supporter...

Craig: "As you do...

Ed: (laughs) "As you do... But I don’t know, I’ve always sort of played it down a bit, I mean, I don’t like that...you know cause we’re not like one of those lads’ bands, you know I think a lot of the time in football...

Craig: "Well you’re quite a clever band, really, when I read the interviews and when I’ve seen you on telly, Oasis are sort of comprehensive kids...that kind of boogie...football, drinking, swearing at the press...but you always seem much more measured and more considerate and more intelligent, your band.

Ed: "Well I don’t think it’s an intelligence thing, I think it’s just, I think it’s probably a bit more where ... because we did come from... You know in England it’s hard to be...deemed to be cool if you’ve been to university and private school, you know...it’s much...you know...you can shout to the top of your voice about being from, you know...being from Moss Side or whatever...you know Britain likes the working class hero...we’re not working class heroes, you know we are what we are...and I think one of the things about us is that we’ve had to get over the fact that as soon as we open our mouths in England people judge you...whereas I think that what we’ve found in going abroad and playing abroad, really why we’ve done a lot of touring and stuff abroad is because people don’t judge us because of that...and I think that’s quite a relief. So, I think that we’ve kind of... we’ve been very measured in our way in Britain, you know, over the last 10 years and...

Craig: "It’s 10 years now isn’t it?

Ed: "Well it’s 12 years since we’ve signed and 18 years since we’ve been a band...cause we were all a band at school so...

Craig: "That is longevity, isn’t it?

Ed: "Yeah yeah, yeah yeah...that’s...

Craig: "Do you... cause I know before we started the interview you had a sort of problem... I perceive the problem... how you feel Radiohead are perceived... you kind of think... Are you seen as posh boys, is that what you are?

Ed: "Well I think we were. But you know...and for years people put us into this sort of... “They’re the new Pink Floyd,” and I personally...I mean, you know, no disrespect to Pink Floyd but I couldn’t stand their music...I grew up...you know, it did nothing for me...it was, it was, I thought...I remember being a 10 year old and loving what I heard from, you know, punk and the reaction, and the reaction was to bands like Pink Floyd. But you know in all honesty, when I saw the making of “Dark Side of the Moon” with my girlfriend, and it was really interesting cause I’ve been fighting... “We’re not like Pink Floyd – no we’re not, no no no” and she turns to me at the end and says, “You are.” So I mean you know, you can’t fight it sometimes and I don’t think...I don’t think we’ve been misperceived, I think we’ve been quite cagey and also when you’re dealing with the British music press you’re dealing with, you know...

Craig: "But they’ve been very good to you, the British music press.

Ed: "Yeah, they have, they have, I guess they have. But you know what it’s like when you’re in a band, or I don’t know...there’s a tendency when you read that stuff to only focus on the stuff that’s bad, so we don’t read any of that stuff anymore so...you know.

Craig: "One more question before we play your first track – I’m from...I do a TV show...we're about to do a movie next year...a Red Dwarf movie and, tell me if I’m wrong – I could be completely wrong, but are Radiohead fans a little bit like Red Dwarf fans?

Ed: "Probably...yeah, yeah...I mean a little bit...kind of...possessive...a little bit...

Craig: "Obsessive...a bit geeky...

Ed: "A couple of anoraks in the wardrobe.

Craig: "Exactly!!

Ed: "Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean it’s that...maybe it’s because...maybe it’s the attention to detail that goes along with these things that, if you do something with a lot of heart and, you know, you do it for the right reasons... which I mean, I’m sure you did with Red Dwarf and all that stuff... and people get into it and you attract a certain kind of person and you know you’re not necessarily flavor of the month, you’re about...

Craig: "It’s a longevity thing again.

Ed: "It’s an evolution and all that stuff, yeah...

Craig: "But at least you don’t have Radiohead conventions!

Ed: "No! Do they have Red Dwarf conventions...?!

Craig: "Hit me! You can hit me if you want! (laughs)

Ed: "Have you been to them?!

Craig: "Only in America! Aright Ed, Choose your first track cause that’s what... I suppose... we’re here to chat ...we’re here to choose some of your tracks, and can I just say beforehand, surprising your choice of tracks and yet invigorating as well.

Ed: "Good, good.

Craig: "So, what's your first track?

Ed: "The first track is my album of the year...what I thought was the best album of the year by a long...by a long...by a country mile...it’s the Streets’ “Original Pirate Material,” and it’s the first track “Turn the Page,” which is one of the most emotional, uplifting, original, brilliant pieces of music and prose I’ve heard for a while...

Craig: "Great use of lyrics, isn’t it?

Ed: "He’s amazing, and the thing about that record is that I only got it from, like, driving around London – I live in London now – and I didn’t get it at first, I heard it a couple times and thought “This is different”... put it on in the car and was driving around North London at 10 o’clock at night and it’s like...you know what, it’s the sound of, it’s the sound of a city, and he’s managed to do that and he’s eloquent and he’s... But the thing is, the most important thing for music for me is emotion and he’s...and this track, “Turn the Pages,” is the one...it’s so powerful.

Craig: "The scary thing about it, though, is he’s from Birmingham, you know.

Ed: "Yeah, absolutely.

Craig: "But, like, it captures London, as far as I’m concerned.

Ed: "Ah it’s brilliant. Well I think...I mean, I don’t know enough about other cities, the only other city I know is...I spent a bit of time in is Manchester...but it captures the kind of the buzz, the vibrancy of a big city and all the madness and all the ups and the downs and the... the after parties and all that stuff and you know, that’s a great gift to be able to do that... and at such a young age as well.

Craig: "This is Craig Charles with Radio6 Breakfast show and I’m with Ed O’Brien, his first choice is the Streets’ “Turn the Page.”

Craig: "This is Craig Charles at Breakfast and that was The Streets with “Turn the Page,” as chosen by Ed O’Brien from Radiohead. Ed, how hard was it to choose it, I mean, come on, it’s like saying...I just did this thing for the Sunday Express... it was all about like choose your top 10 comedians and it got so hard that in the end I didn’t do it, you know. How difficult was this?

Ed: "It wasn’t hard because I think...if you think of it like your Desert Island Discs, then it's going to be hard...but I thought of it like, “I’m off the road, we’ve just finished touring,” what is, what is...I went along the shelves... the CD shelves and what would I want to hear now? They aren’t necessarily, you know, the best ever...you know, my favorite top ten...but they’re what means something to me now. So it was kind of quite easy, I mean I...when you’ve done...when you’ve been on the road, you get into that whole thing of...you know, you’re tired and you need propping up a bit, and music plays a big part of that.

Craig: "Yeah. As you say you’ve been performing across the UK this year... I know that you play quite small venues like Shepherd’s Bush Empire and then some massive ones like Earls Court. Where is the best place to see Radiohead – in your opinion? I mean, do you like the big ones, the small ones?

Ed: "I think the best place... I mean, I don’t necessarily... I think we can do the small ones and I think we can do the big ones sometimes... I mean Earls Court was really hard, the second night was good but the first night was really hard, I mean...

Craig: "And hard in what way? What do you mean?

Ed: "Well it’s just...it’s a big room and most of the places we played on the tour even if you’re playing...I mean we played some big in America...but like Madison Square Garden...Madison Square Garden Friday night...we did two nights there... was rocking, and that was great because you can forget that...you can forget that it’s in Madison Square Garden...you can forget that...you know it’s funny, when the night’s going really well that room kind of shrinks and you sort of get bigger and bigger in it and the music and the audience and everything you sort of come together and it’s more than a room, but with Earls Court you can’t do that, the place is so huge. But I reckon...you know, Madison Square Garden on a Friday night in New York was great, or...

Craig: "I saw U2 there, actually, in Madison Square Garden...“Let’s fly off to L.A. and Get Married”...that tour,

Ed: "Wow!

Craig: "..with Phil Yano, the guy who directed Rattle And Hum he flew off and got married that night...we all got on the plane with U2...he flew off and got married to a girl called Kate Heymann, who was at the A&R for a thing called Amargo records...Terry Alis’ label. And they got married that night

Ed: "Good Lord...

Craig: "it lasted three weeks!

Ed: "Wow – it lasted three weeks, really?

Craig: "Elvis married them as well. The thing was I thought Elvis would play a couple of songs and that would be it. He played a 40 minute set! It was about five in the morning...everyone was starting to come down from whatever they’d been on... and we're thinking “just get the manager over would you, mate?!” (laughs). Well it’s a great venue, isn’t it?

Ed: "It's great

Craig: "And it’s better for sound than, say, Wembley is.

Ed: "Oh it’s way better, it’s way better. I mean it’s...to be honest with you, I think we’ve got...we’ve got a real bum deal in London vis-?-vis big venues. Wembley...I mean, we’ll probably get into trouble here, but Wembley...

Craig: "But Wembley stadium I’m talking about, I’m not talking about the arena, the arena’s not so good either, but Wembley stadium was a terrible...

Ed: "It’s rubbish. And Earls Court is not very good. I mean, you know, we don’t have that kind of ...we don’t...I mean, people just aren’t investing in purpose-built arenas...except that we had that London arena but apparently that was rubbish as well so...

Craig: "Yeah, I played the London arena,

Ed: "Did you?

Craig: "with Robot Wars! (laughs) I played Wembley arena with Robot Wars...that’s every performer’s dream to go out and say “Hello Wembley!”

Ed: "Did it rock? Was it good?

Craig: "It was packed! We did three shows a day for three weeks.

Ed: "Wow. Is Robot Wars... the same people who like Robot Wars are they quite similar to the people who like Radiohead?

Craig: "Right, they’re all Radiohead fans! ...They're all Radiohead fans!! They're all building robots with OK Computer on, I tell you man, I tell you!!... We’re symbiotic...

Ed: "Oh, right. Cool

Craig: "We share a fan base! It’s shocking! Um, Ed you’re the good looking one in your band, would you say?

Ed: "Naw, naw.

Craig: "Oh come on, everyone says that! Cause when I [inaudible]...everyone says “That’s the good looking one!”

Ed: "Well, I mean you know...

Craig: "Well come on, don’t be modest! Look, I’m sitting opposite you here... I’d even shag ya!

Ed: "All right then...

Craig: "Can I say that at Christmas? (laughs)

Ed: "Of course you can!

Craig: "What’s your girlfriend like? I bet she’s gorgeous.

Ed: "She’s great.

Craig: "Is she?

Ed: "She’s just about to...we’re about to have our first kid, as well, so...

Craig: "I’ve got a little 7 month old

Ed: "Really?

Craig: "Called her Nelly.

Ed: "Wow - Nelly?

Craig: "Yeah, Nelly.

Ed: "Is that your first?

Craig: "No we’ve got...I’ve got a 15 year-old and I’ve got a 6 year-old as well, called Anna-Jo... she’s lovely. Got 2 little daughters and a son called Jack, he’s 15 and he’s 6’2”... he’s going to be like you.

Ed: "Well done. And he’s how old?

Craig: "He’s 15, he’s 6’2”, he’s got size 12 feet...if he didn’t look like me I’d be asking questions! All right, we’ve got loads more to talk about. Let’s play a bit of music. Your second choice is...is what – it’s the Congos?

Ed: "Yeah, “Fisherman.”

Craig: "I’m not up on this...

Ed: "I mean, I’ve heard this track before, but I’ve got it specifically on the Don Letts’ compilation – “Dread Meets” – what’s it, “Dread Meets Punk Rockers Uptown” that he did...this fantastic compilation about 2 years ago. And I think they’re all the tracks that he used to spin down in West London at the time of punk and all the punks used to get off on all this stuff. And it’s just a...it’s just as music should be...it’s soul and it’s emotion and it just...it soothes.

Craig: "It soothes. There we go then – it’s the Congos, this is “Fisherman.”

Craig: "That was the Congos with “Fisherman” from a Don Letts’ compilation, “Dread Meets Punk Rockers Uptown” selected by DJ Don Letts and then chosen by Ed O’Brien from Radiohead...he’s here, very modest, very intelligent...very good looking, isn’t it? I think I’m going gay.

Ed: "Yeah, well less of the compliments.

Craig: "It’s all right man. Listen, a lot of your music...it’s a bit like U2... not the style of the music, in the credits it says written by Radiohead, rather than written by like, you know, Ed or whoever. Do you write together, is that the way it is? Or was it one of those collective sort of decisions, like U2 made, to keep the band from breaking up?

Ed: "Yeah, I think it’s a decision that you know...when we got the band together, we looked at sort of our favorite bands and the bands who we thought, you know...stayed together and the way they stayed together... and R.E.M. and U2 seemed to have it...I mean we wanted... we took a leaf out of their book because we knew, in the early days, all that we wanted to do was tour... get in a van and tour tour tour, that’s all we had to do. The other thing that was obvious...that when you looked at the song writing credits that everybody was credited, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s a 5-way or a 4-way split between them...I mean I think in U2 and R.E.M. it was... but...

Craig: "But that was quite important, I think...

Ed: "It’s very important, because...

Craig: "To keep the band together. But there was a 5-way split with U2, wasn’t there, because they brought their manager in as well.

Ed: "And I always thought that that was really cool. I always thought that it was kind of like, you know...it’s the...

Craig: "It’s the collective.

Ed: "Collective, exactly! And I mean Thom is...Thom is...by far and away the prime...he writes all the lyrics, he writes most of the music...Jonny writes a lot of the music...and they’re presented to us...but then they become sort of...as Thom says...

Craig: "But no one writes your guitar licks for you, do you know what I mean? So that’s what you wrote?

Ed: "No, exactly, that’s what happens. You go into the rehearsal and that’s when it becomes a band thing that comes... That’s when a Thom Yorke or a Jonny Greenwood, or a Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood song becomes a Radiohead song...and it’s good because, you know, it...I think you...I think then it means you avoid all that... The worst thing you that you can do in a band is it suddenly it starts becoming about money. You know, we were a band – a school band – it’s always been about music and in order to carry on doing that... it always has to be about music. And any decisions that you make...I mean you obviously have commercial decisions that you make...but they should always come secondary to any artistic...

Craig: "To the music.

Ed: "And that’s always been the way and I think it’s like, if you prioritize the money – if that thing changes - then you lose it as a band, and so many bands have done it...and as long as the music and keeping together and, you know, the joy of it is the priority than you’ll be okay.

Craig: "So basically that must mean, though, that you’re all...fairly minted?

Ed: "Yeah, well yeah, I mean, absolutely!

Craig: "Are you surprised by how well it’s gone?

Ed: "Yeah, of course.

Craig: "I mean, some of the cheques, some of the royalty cheques that land on your carpet...

Ed: "It’s outrageous!

Craig: "It must be! It must be!

Ed: "It’s outrageous, and you know, cause you start this thing and you don’t think... and you know, for years and year and years you don’t have any money...

Craig: "It’s a hobby!

Ed: "It’s a hobby and you love it and that’s all you want to do...you’re happy as Larry...you’re on 80 quid a week, you’re on PDs and stuff like that, and then around the time of OK Computer, suddenly these cheques arrive.

Craig: "And they must be like......the noughts, man!

Ed: "Well it’s outrageous cause you can buy a house outright without, you know, I remember in ’97 I bought a house and, you know, I took out a mortgage and within 4 months I’d paid it off, so...but, you know...it’s an amazing thing. And of course what accompanies that..... I had the whole thing of 4 years of guilt, kind of like not being able to...I know, crazy, stupid, eh, completely

Craig: "Why? Why were you guilty about it?

Ed: "Well because your mates are like...mind you, your mates are the ones partying while you were in the back of a van...

Craig: "And rehearsing, yeah!

Ed: "so I see that now, you know but...

Craig: "Yeah (laughs) "You’ve seen the light!

Ed: "Yeah, but, it’s one of the things...and it’s one of the things that you have to get used to and it’s kind of like...if you haven’t been used to money and then what you mustn’t do is you mustn’t let it sort of....

Craig: "Go mad.

Ed: "Yeah.

Craig: "But pop stars do, they start...I mean, they go down the Ferrari route...they kind of, sort of just like, the conspicuous consumption route, but you never kind of see...you never think Radiohead’s going to do that?

Ed: "No. Well because they’re distractions, they’re all distractions. If you get another house, if you have a fleet of like 10 cars, they’re distractions from what you should be doing. I was put on this planet to be in this band and, you know, one of the things that [inaudible – break in interview]...more distractions...why do I want another house, why do I want, you know...and you see all these big bands and you realize that they end up in business meetings rather than rehearsal or writing or recording or touring. It’s quite basic, really, and I think, you know, I want to keep doing this...I mean, I love this thing and I honestly would get rid of all of it and carry on and do the music and that’s what’s important.

Craig: "Everyone at 6 is really pleased that you’ve been coming in and doing this thing for us. I was speaking to my mate last night and I said “I’m going to interview Ed O’Brien from Radiohead tomorrow” and he said “Ohhh!” “Anything that I should ask him?” and he turned around and said, “Well, ask him why they’re so miserable”. You have a reputation for doing miserable songs,

Ed: "I know....

Craig: "but look at you, you’re a happy-go-lucky lad with a smile on your face!

Ed: "Totally!

Craig: "So why the reputation?

Ed: "I think because, you know, I think we maybe relaxed a bit now, I think maybe before...I mean, I think, if I’m honest, before we had...we had a bit of a...

Craig: "It was a cool thing to be miserable!?

Ed: "No, it wasn’t. It was a totally genuine thing. And I think we were trying to, you know...I think that one of the things that drove us on in this band was not only the music, but - because we formed this band when we were at school and it was our everything...I was at university but we used to come down, you know, it used to take precedence over everything, over girlfriends, you know, over everything, over your family, blah blah blah, because there was a certain...you know, I think we thought there was salvation in this music: “If I was in a great band, I would be happy”...and I think a lot of us thought that, I think many of us thought that if, you know, we became a great band it would sort out, you know, our happiness and our social problems and all that stuff. It doesn’t, but so you have to figure out what does make you happy, but...

Craig: "Are you happy now?

Ed: "Yeah, totally.

Craig: "Is the music any happier, do you think?

Ed: "I think the music’s got a lot more joy. I think the thing that we’ve got now to concentrate on and I think the thing about the last 2 years and playing live and stuff is the joy, you know, I don’t think there’s been...I think what our music before has been cathartic, it’s been very very emotional, very heavy, and uplifting, but uplifting in a kind of, you know, someone comes on and the audience goes “Yeah, that’s how I feel.” Joy is a different thing – joy is something that, you know, it’s something that you see in an artist like Bob Marley and the Wailers – that kind of thing. U2 do joy very well.

Craig: "Well both U2 and Bob Marley, did pain in a joyous way.

Ed: "Exactly, and I think that’s where, I hope that’s where we’re sort of heading towards in terms of, you know, being uplifting and... Thom’s lyrics dealing with serious stuff as it always has done and affairs of the heart and affairs of the world and what’s around us, but dealing it with a joyous kind of like, you know...which is...

Craig: "Which is your next choice!

Ed: "Which leads onto Asian Dub Foundation, because for me, you know...

Craig: "A wicked band, by the way, a wicked band.

Ed: "Amazing! I mean, they’ve just been supporting us and I...

Craig: "They supported – I didn’t realize!

Ed: "Yeah, they were opening up for us and it is such a treat, you know, I mean for me Asian Dub Foundation was...I had a period about 2 or 3 years about 5 years ago when I just couldn’t get in...I was just sick of all music and the only thing that kept the joy was going to see ADF live and it made me feel like I was 16 again, it made me feel like...you know when you’re in a band what we did, you sometimes hear a piece of music and you can be ultra critical...you’re kind of like “Oh that production’s like that” or “That sounds like that” and you forget about what the essence of music is and there are two things: ADF – going to see ADF live - and listening to the music of Neil Young and they were the two things that kind of like “Ahh,” you know, “How do I get a bit...why is that” and it’s because of where their hearts and their minds are at.

Craig: "I saw Neil Young solo – just him and his acoustic guitar – at the Albany theatre in New York and...it must have been about 1993 and he just sat down and it was packed...

Ed: "Was that “Harvest Moon?”

Craig: "It was ’93...it was like his greatest hits kind of thing really...he just sat down with an acoustic guitar and sang all his songs and it blew...cause I’ve never really...I heard live...but that was my introduction to him and I’ve got all his stuff now. What track are you going to play?

Ed: "It’s a track off their album “Enemy of the Enemy” which is brilliant. It’s a track called “Basta” and it’s...the thing I like about it is they’ve got a brass section in there, it’s got a bit of...it reminds me...it’s kind of got the joy that I was talking about and it’s kind of...it’s a bit of a departure for them as well I think and I’ve been banging their...I hope I haven’t been annoying them by saying how much I loved it...the bits on the album where they take a bit of a departure and go off, you know, on different musical ground and this is one of them.

Craig: "What [inaudible] for them? - do you think they could come off as big as you guys?

Ed: "I think that they’re...I mean in the UK I think they have a problem with the UK and they’re as much...but when we were in France we did a...it was like a double-header...

Craig: "That’s the one question I want to ask you – what was it like playing that amphitheatre in France? I mean, the atmosphere must have been wild!

Ed: "It was mad because it’s a place which is...you know, it’s obviously 2,000 years old and the first half an hour we were playing and it’s a bit weird and it’s kind of like “This is strange!” you know, and you go like...you don’t want to impose your, kind of, ego all over it...it’s kind of like you have to...I mean, this might sound a bit strange, but you have to sort of go with the flow and you have to almost be...you have to...you sort of have to remember what’s been going on in this venue what...you know, 2,000 years...you have to pay your dues, really, and once you do that – you sort of mentally pay your dues – you go “Okay”...it was amazing...it was amazing.

Craig: "All right, this is the Asian Dub Foundation...this is “Basta.” Before that, before we play it, though, thanks for talking to us, Ed. Remember, we’ve got all the members of Radiohead choosing tracks throughout the week on 6Music so keep listening! Christmas is not an excuse to neglect your radio! This is Asian Dub Foundation...this is “Basta.”

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