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Sook-Yin Lee: Alright, we're with Phil and Ed, post-show. Fantastic show. You guys always put on a stellar show. How can you be so consistent? What’s up with that?

Phil and Ed: (Smile in embarrassment): Um…

Phil: Toronto.

Ed: (Laughs) Yeah, obviously.

Phil: Brings out the best.

Ed: Yeah.

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Sook-Yin Lee: You guys seem to get into the zone, when you’re performing music. Is it like a zone? Is it like some… I mean, what? Thom’s shaking his head for two hours straight. I mean, that must rattle his brain!

Ed: Yeah.

Sook-Yin Lee: Does he get a sore neck?

Ed: It’s pretty… Those neck muscles are pretty well developed by now.

Phil: They are, yeah.

Ed: I mean, he’s been doing it for a good few years, now.

Sook-Yin Lee: I mean, does he just, like, go… Is he getting dizzy or…? What’s happening there?

Phil: (Looks to Ed) Um, I don’t know.

Ed: Don’t know, really.

Phil: Don’t know.

Ed: (Laughs) We should ask him that? (Looks back into distance where Thom would be.)

Sook-Yin Lee: (laughs)

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Sook-Yin Lee: You saw Janet Jackson in concert last night. Now, were you able to glean some of Janet Jackson’s expertise in performance and apply it to what you’re doing tonight?

Phil: (Laughs) Well, I mean, it was great because, I mean, her show was the complete polar opposite to what we do. Because, I mean, it was choreographed to be…

Sook-Yin Lee: You’re not dressed as cowgirls.

Phil: Unfortunately not.

Ed: Yeah. We can be tempted, though.

Phil: Yeah. (Laughs)

Ed: It’s really good to see something that’s so different from what we do. And it was, like, entertaining. One moment, she’s kind of part-Bambi. The next, she’s kind of dominatrix, kind of thing. It’s brilliant.

Sook-Yin Lee: I know.

Phil: Yeah.

Sook-Yin Lee: (Points to Phil) I could see you as the dominatrix. (Points to Ed) Bambi.

Ed: (Laughs) I’m not being Bambi.

Phil: (Laughs) Alright, I’ll play Bambi. You be the dominatrix again. God!

Ed: Thanks!

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Sook-Yin starts to ask question and then decides to move the interview due to noise of moving vehicles and an employee at the concert site, asking her to leave.

Sook-Yin Lee: Yeah, we can walk and talk.

Ed: We can walk and talk.

Sook-Yin Lee: We got in trouble with him earlier.

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Sook-Yin Lee: Do you guys shoot each other looks, when you’re performing. Like, “What? What are you doing?”

Phil: (Giggles) I think we got beyond there, now, haven’t we?

Ed: The nasty looks have gone.

Phil: The nasty looks have gone, yeah.

Ed: It’s more those looks of, like, you know, when band’s are having a few laughs, going – (mocks publicized phoniness of intra-band joviality).

Sook-Yin Lee: (Going along with mocking) Yeah, that’s a good one.

Ed: Lots of that kind of winking and “Nice one, mate!” (Gives thumbs up)

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Sook-Yin Lee: There’s this love and hate relationship with touring, but when you went and created your two albums, you end up “jonesing” to tour again. Is this a good thing to do? Do you guys like going out there?

Phil: Yeah.

Ed: (Nods)

Phil: No, it’s… I mean, there isn’t that much hate about it this time around, is there at all?

Ed: No.

Sook-Yin Lee: What’s the secret there? Take a couple of days off between shows?

Phil: Yeah. I mean, it’s an extremely laid back pace that we tour at, now. (Giggles)

Ed: (Giggles) Day on, day off, day on, day off. Day on, day on, off, off, off, off, off, off.

Sook-Yin Lee: I’ve heard that you guys are big shoppers.

Ed: Well, some of us are. I’m not; I can’t get anything to fit, so I don’t go shopping.

Phil: Oh, now, come on!

Sook-Yin Lee: Thom […] goes clothes shopping.

Ed: He loves shopping.

Phil: (to Ed) I’ve seen you out shopping.

Ed: Alright, then. Maybe a couple of times.

Phil: (laughs)

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Sook-Yin Lee: I noticed that [indecipherable] tonight, you’ve got quite the crowd that comes to follow you. How would you describe your audience?

Phil: Um, well, on the strength of tonight, uh, they seemed very passionate tonight, don’t you think?

Ed: Yeah, it’s a bit of a party.

Phil: Yeah.

Ed: Maybe, it’s the weekend – Friday night and all of that. There’s definitely a bit of a… (makes an uplifting, light gesture). I heard a few hooters and things, down in the front. (Imitates noises) Thom was singing “Exit Music.” (Imitates noises) And there’s a real, sort of… There was a nice, um, a really nice mood.

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Sook-Yin Lee: What’s the weirdest thing you’ve seen on stage happen?

Ed: Um.

Phil: Oh, oh, oh…

Ed: That’s a tricky one. Just the usual, you know. The topless thing (gestures like a woman taking off her top) at a festival or whatever. That hardly ever happens, so that always shakes us up. “Whoa!”

Phil: “I say!”

Ed: “I say! Ding dong!”

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Ed: “Amnesiac” has always really divided people.

Phil: Yeah.

Ed: And there’s been really passionate… (makes gesture suggesting different directions)

Phil: Yeah. Either way, yeah.

Ed: Either way. I haven’t seen much middle ground.

Phil: No.

Ed: And that’s always a good thing.

Phil: Yeah.

Ed: I mean, that’s always what we wanted. In a way, it’s much better to get an extreme reaction, either way. Because, at least, you’re doing something that makes people react.

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Sook-Yin Lee: There’s that “New Yorker” article [by] Nick Hornsby, who wrote “High Fidelity.” He ended up writing an article. He obviously loves Radiohead, but he felt that, um, he didn’t want your music to become so inaccessible. He wanted a return to the straight-ahead pop tunes. What’s your response to that sentiment.

Phil: I mean, in a way, fair comment with something like “Kid A” and “Amnesiac” because it does take a few listens…

Ed: Yeah.

Phil: … to find your bearings within the albums, but, um…

Ed: I mean, I’d like Nick Hornby to go back to writing about football.

Phil: (laughs hard) Boom!

Ed: (laughs) You know, I mean, you know. I mean, I read “How to Be Good”, but, I mean, I thought it was very nice, but, you know, not for the thirty-three year old. I’d much rather… You know, why can’t you write about football in record stores?

Phil: Exactly.

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Sook-Yin Lee: You’re part of the group, uh.. a generation of young people and artists who are politically conscious in a different way than our predecessors – you know, the punks, the hippies, the beats. But, I’m wondering – bottom line – what sort of world do you want to live in?

Phil: Sorry, I heard you include us in “young people” at the beginning of that question. I was thinking, “Yes!”

Sook-Yin Lee: (Laughs) You’re like, “Yes!”

Phil: (Laughs)

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Ed: I want to live in a world where you buy stuff and you know that somebody manufacturing or making that stuff hasn’t been ripped off. You know, I want to live in a world where money isn’t the be all and end all – that unfettered, free markets aren’t the be all and end all, that you have to help people. There’s a lower strata in society throughout the world and these people need help. And, at the moment, you know, the inequalities of wealth get greater, and I don’t think that’s good for humanity, you know. It’s not good.

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Phil: We weren’t particularly good at communicating with each other for a very long time, but that’s something we’ve overcome in ourselves now.

Sook-Yin Lee: With the help of a good therapist.

Phil: Oh, yeah. But, um, I think we’re a much better band, as a result. I mean, yeah, communication is always the key to…

Sook-Yin Lee: Body language! You’re both crossing your arms.

Phil and Ed jokingly put arms around one another in friendship.

Ed: We’ve never been tighter.

Phil: Yeah.

Sook-Yin Lee: Last question I have is about the… Oh, you just slapped each other’s asses. (Turns to audience in camera) Did you hear that? (Imitates by slapping her own behind.)

Ed and Phil slap each other’s butts.

Ed: That’s like, uh… Sportsmen always do that. You know, whenever someone scores a goal in soccer, they’re always like… Give a quick tap.

Sook-Yin Lee: Yeah, yeah, I’m sure.

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Sook-Yin Lee: You have this sort of, like, stiff upper lip thing, talking about cheese and tea, but really you’re slapping each other’s asses and, like, Daddy and son thing happening.

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Sook-Yin Lee: What’s going to be going on for you? More tour?

Phil: Yeah, we’re touring until the beginning of October.

Sook-Yin Lee: And, then, make music or rest?

Phil: Uh, rest, I think, for a while. No plans yet, so…

Sook-Yin Lee: Any, sort of, musical things that are percolating in your brain, in terms, of like…

Phil: There’s new material.

Sook-Yin Lee: Listening to Janet Jackson?

Ed: Hey, R & B. Dance routines. Six months for dance routines.

Phil: Yeah.

Sook-Yin Lee: That’s going to be the next phase of Radiohead, isn’t it?

Ed: That’d be so cool, wouldn’t it? If we came out, and we’d suddenly learned to dance. (Laughs)

Phil: (Laughs)

Sook-Yin Lee: You’d have to use the cowgirls.

Ed: Really throw ‘em. Do something…

Phil: It would, wouldn’t it? Also, with our varying heights and statures…

Ed: And it would look appalling.

Phil: It would look appalling.

Ed: It would be sort of “Monty Python”.

Sook-Yin Lee: Think about it, guys. I mean, you did the… You’ve done everything so far.

Ed: We haven’t done that.

Phil: Yeah. If you know a good choreographer, send them to us, and we’ll work on it. Yup. (Laughs)

Sook-Yin Lee: (Points to Phil) You be the choreographer.

Phil: Great.

Ed: (Jokingly moves arm in dancing motion) All that ‘60s stuff.

Sook-Yin Lee: And be, like, (hugs herself) hugging.

Phil: (Feigning snobbish or manly properness) No! It’s a bit too close, isn’t it?

Sook-Yin Lee: Oh, no! Don’t touch!

Ed: (Steps back) There we go. Plenty of distance. Right. See you! Nice.

Phil: Very nice.

Sook-Yin Lee: (Pointing to cable wire along the ground between Phil and Ed) Okay, look, but they’re connected by their technical umbilical cord.

Phil: Oh!

Ed: Then, it’s time to go.