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Ed: "[We started] about ten years ago, and did not... well, we played in little village halls, Thom and Jonny did some little four tracks and bedroom recording and um, it was only in 1991 after we've been to college that we..."

Thom: [something in audible]

Ed: "...and then there were three *laughter*...so...yes we formed the band in 1985 while we were all at school. Thom and Colin were in the same year, I was in the year above. And um..."

Colin: "But we didnt look up to you because of that, did we Ed?"

Ed: "No, only height wise... and um, we then, we all went off to college, but we kept on playing, we used to come back in the holidays. And, carried on playing, and in 1991 once we'd all finished college, ah, we decided to actually play infront of some people, which was quite strange and new to us at the time. And um, we got signed up at the end of 91 and here we are now.

Thom: "No one else would let us be in their gang you know, so we had to form our own really. But mostly I think it was the fact that uh, we considered music to be the answer to our prayers, and, and all the bands we were listening to, was just, when you listened to that stuff, it just made everything all right.

Host: "Is that what you mean, when you said, here in your biography, 'we formed out of sheer boredom'?"

Thom: "Yes, boredom, boredom in the sense that it was the one thing that meant the most to us, so everything else was boring."

Thom: "Probably, the main thing we wanted to do was, was um not repeat ourselves, I think. Um, I think it would have made certain people very happy if we had other versions of that song, but at that point we had really had enough. We were kinda doing other stuff really, I mean we were just doing...uh...we were writing different sorts of song you know, we can't repeat ourselves even if we wanted to, we couldnt repeat ourselves. We just get bored too easily, um we spent most of the year trying to come down after what had happened, and learning to listen to each other again and learning to enjoy writing stuff again, somwhere along the line some of the enjoyment went away and it all got a bit silly and then I think by the time we'd finished the bends suddenly we were enjoying ourselves again, suddenly we thought, yeah, you know, this is why we started this."

Ed: "The video for High and Dry was filmed right outside LA where the set of the flinstones was, they did Bill and Teds amazing adventure whatever its called. Um, and yeah it was basically to try to simulate this like lunar moon landscape and there is like a motion control camera going on there, and about half way through they pour alot of rain on us...."

Colin: "We get wet"

Ed: "we get very wet, it was like 1100 gallons in a minute and a half, it just comes down so heavy, you can't do anything else, you know alot of videos and stuff, its like miming and pretending you're playing it, but when this rain came down, it was just like, we didnt know wat the hell to do, it was...and they did that three times!"

Thom: "Yeah, it was like, we didnt just do it once, they said 'that was great, can we just do it again, actually, again? please?' and we'd just stand there soaking wet"

Host: "I think Colin..."

Ed: "Colin's got a story"

Host: "...wants to say something about it"

Colin: "Well, I got into a lot of trouble because I thought had just had two takes to do right, and everyone was standing in the rain, I went to the tent to change into dry clothes and I was completely naked when this assistant ran into the tent saying 'they're all waiting for another take!' So I had to put all my wet clothes on again, so that was unfortunate."

Ed and Thom: *something inaudible*

Colin: "Yeah I did offer yeah, I dont think the world is ready yet *laughs*"

Host: "And what about your jacket?"

Colin: "Yeah, my jacket, I'm wearing it today, but it used to be, its a goutier jacket and I really liked it and it use to be black and a bit bigger but it shrunk and has gone grey because I wore it in the video so you know...this is the only, I'm gonna get another one, but this is the only one I've got at the moment so um, that was heartbreaking. High and Dry had better be played on the television because, just to cover the emotional cost of my jacket."

Thom: "Its kind of about evil canival but not really, you know, kanival, stunt man tried to kill himself every week? but...anyway...its kind of about that, I dunno, its there seems, one of the first things i noticed once we started doing this properly, was the way people around us, other bands and ourselves were changing into like complete idiots, um, and were kind of losing their friends and losing any connection with reality, and... very fast...thank you...I kind of saw us doing that, and I dont really know, what else? can you think of anything else?"

Ed: "It was recorded two years ago with our sound engineer about 7 months after we recorded pablo honey because the ideal situation for us is to actually record as we go along. And um, our managers or in fact we were going through the vaults and uh... of what we've done and they said have you heard this song *laughs*"

Thom: "...vaults...*sarcastically*"

Colin: "...secret bank in Switzerland where all of radioheads recordings are held so valuable are they."

Thom: "...not valuable at all"

Ed: "Anyway, we came across high and dry and everyone at the time didn't think very much of it, but it seemed to really fit in well with what we were doing"

Thom: "Hang on, Colin was about to say 'Actually, I thought it was great'"

Colin: "No, I thought it was great you know and I think..."

Ed: "He's lying, he's an absolute liar"

Colin: "No, I loved it, I loved it to pieces when we did it, and uh, you know big fan, big fan"

Thom: "He's always about three months ahead of everybody else, Coz, and we all just think he's a looney."

Host: " So the first two singles from the bends are my iron lung and high and dry, tell me about my iron lung first"

Thom: "Well, we kind of had a version of it which we didnt like, and then we did this show in london right and it was on tape, and, and the version of iron lung that we did there was just amazing, so we just kept it really, and it was on tape and everything so we went it and then we thought hang on we dont even need to shoot a video because there it is, because we had it on video as well. And um, it was one of those songs that I wrote the verse and I thought ya thats great, and it was really beautiful so we just had to screw it up really, somehow, so we did by putting the other bit in, and uh, its my favorite song we play live, without a doubt."

Thom: "This is the Radiohead special, and we'll be back soon, on Videomusic, I think, apparently, yes."

Host: "The Drill EP and tell me about..."

Colin: "The Drill EP?...."

Host: "Yes"

Colin: "The Drill EP was something that we did at a small studio near Oxford, it was the first thing we recorded and released in May 1992. And then after that we went in and recorded Creep, with these two Americans, Paul Kolderie and Sean Slade, who worked at Fort Apache in Boston and would do stuff like Throwing Muses and Dinosaur Junior, and uh, we did Creep with them, and released it in September. And it did quite well in England and then did even better in America, and then was re-released in England and did even better still, so uh, that was the story of Creep really."

Host: "At the beginning, it didn't have a really good air play in England, why?"

Colin: "Uh, because it was too noisy, I dunno, because, people said its too depressing, you know, I find it, it makes me, yeah I mean, personally the song makes me chuckle, you know, its not a problem at all. But um, you know we sold 20,000 copies when it first came out in England so thats not rubbish really, its pretty good."

Host: "Then you went to America, and the band practically exploded, how did you feel at that moment?..."

Ed: "How did we feel then?..."

Host: "Nah, how did you feel, yeah, in that moment?"

Ed: "Brilliant. It was strange, we'd just done a European tour, and the first day on that European tour we played to like 26 people, it was up in Denmark. And a month later we were doing this, 18 day club tour in the States, sold out, and um, MTV playing 'Creep' 6 times a day, we were like, I guess kids in a toy shop, something like that..."

Thom: "Sort of..."

Ed: "Sort of..."

Colin: "I thought bulls in a china shop, you know, running a muck in the United States, weren't we?"

Thom: "To be honest, I don't think we realized what it meant really, and thats probably a good thing. Because uh, it meant that it never really affected us in a way that it could have done, uh, and we just kinda went back to Britain saying 'um, yeah, we've got this song, and its doing really well, and uh, but you know, call about the next record, please' "

Host: "Did it affect you any how, that when you were writing the songs for this album that for the songs of the first album, they said that they were depressing lyrics, I mean..."

Thom: "I think that it disturbed me slightly, that there was so much attention put on the lyrics, when it just wasnt something I was really expecting, so when it came to writing the songs for this album I was like very much aware of it, but I think that was actually a good thing, cause it made me think twice about what I was gonna write which, once you realize people might hear it and once you realize that, they way people will look at what you're doing, it changes it and it can be a positive thing because it means that you have to re-evaluate certain things, and uhm, I think, its just there is a lot more to this record because of that, because we kind of, we went through quite a lot of stuff during promoting the first album, uhm, I think by the time we got to The Bends there was just a lot of things we wanted to write about a lot of things that had to get down."

Host: "Are you satisfied with the work you have done? you think that you have been able to let feed everything you wanted in the album more?"

Thom: "I think so, I think, I think with this record we knew we had to produce something that was gonna be as good as creep."

Host: "I havent seen you yet, but they told me that you are very good, can you confirm that?"

Thom: "Can you confirm that we are good live Ed?"

Ed: "Uhm, yes."

Host: "Why do you think that you are so good live?"

Ed: "We just, we've always been quite passionate about playing live, it was the first thing we did, you know, before we ever recoreded anything. It was the one chance in the day that you could just go on stage and forget about everything. And uhm, I think we still do that."

Thom: "And I think The Bends is the best possible album we can make at this stage, and I think its really really, it really excites me because as soon as we'd finished it, I realized how important what we do is."

Thom: "What we found pretty quickly actually is that the best way to record is to treat it again as a performance, and that everything you are doing in a performance. And like you're running around the studio, or you're getting drunk, or you're getting high or you're playing an instrument or just having a laugh, or you're outside, or whatever, but its a performance and its always like, you know, the tapes rolling as well, you know, and if there's that sense of enjoyment that you get when you're on stage in the studio, no matter what you're doing, then its great. I mean, thats something you hear, when the Beastie Boys record, you hear, they're just having a really good time. And its something that, although the songs themselves are really down on our record *laughs* um, I think the actual making of the record was really, really fun in the end, once we got over like this technology and things, and actually started to chill out and enjoy ourselves, it was uhm a pretty brilliant record, I thought, I think, we think."

Host: "Ok, thank you very much guys."

Ed: "Thank you"

Colin: "Cheers"

Thom: "Thank you very much"

Host: "Arrivederci"

Thom: "Bye"